MINUTES of the meeting held
on Monday 10 October 2016 at Kings Hall Community Church, South Clerk Street
1. Welcome and apologies for
Joan Carter (JC, chair), Philip McDowell (PMcD), Deborah Charlesworth (DC,
Secretary), David Benyon (DB), Robert Hodgart (RH), Theodora Lola-Luz (D L-L,
Southside Association), Tim Pogson (TP), David Wood (DW, Causey Development
Trust), Councillor Orr, and 9 members of the public
for absence were received from Kaaren Haughton (KH), Nicholas Oddy (NO),
Svetlana Repanova (SR, treasurer), Alec Edgecliffe-Johnson (student
2. The minutes of the
Meeting held on September 12th were
approved, subject to being corrected by incorporating the comments in the draft
version. There were no matters arising.
3. PC Stuart Fraser to attend at the meeting and
provide information about the two serious crimes.
David Cuthbert is now the Community Sergeant
for the Southside/Newington and Meadows/Morningside wards (oddly, he is not on
the Neighbourhood Partnership list that appears on our web site). I have
copied him into this email for information.
Jim Orr’s Report
Rubbish bin problems continue, and Cllr. Orr expressed little
hope that things will improve under the new arrangement to be introduced at the
end of October 2016.
Better arrangements have been agreed for residents’ parking
at Dumbiedykes, where there have been problems with people visiting the old
town using car parking spots.
The intersection at E. Preston St., S. Clerk St and Newington
Road will not be repaired as had been promised.
There was a brief discussion about initiating and encouraging
relations with the Mosque in Buccleuch St. Cllr. Orr informed us that the
police believe that the damage done to the building was simply vandalism, not
specifically directed against the Muslim community. JC went to an event to show
support after the attack, and she spoke to members of the mosque, and will
visit the imam.
JC requested information about changing the kerb at the
bottom of the path down to Dumbiedykes to a slope, to make it more convenient
for cyclists. Cllr. Orr said that he does not think that it had been agreed to
do this work, and that the SCC should apply for funding for this work under one
of the funding calls that regularly occur, possibly via the Neighbourhood
asked about the recent changes in the wards, when Dumbiedykes has been made part of the
Central ward, making it unclear whether Dumbiedykes remains part of the area
represented by the SCC. Cllr. Orr replied that such matters will become clear.
TP added that the main effect of the change is that our area will be
represented by a larger number of councillors.
Update on Southside GP Surgery: JC has talked (with Fran Gifford, FG) to Ruth
Davidson, to try and get help to ensure that this surgery will continue in our
neighbourhood. Although she has tried to help, it seems likely that this will
not happen, based on a letter she received on September 21st, and information
that the practice manager is already re-allocating patients to other surgeries.
A meeting is to take place (JC, FG and Colin Christison from the Southside
Association) with Gavin Douglas, the University of Edinburgh deputy secretary
for student experience. JC will request the University to make money available
to help retain the surgery premises, and hopes to discuss plans to train more
5. Causey Project
a short presentation from DW, chair of the Causey Development Trust (CDT), it
was explained by RH that W. Crosscauseway cannot be closed to traffic and
pedestrianized, mainly because disabled access to the Community Centre (also to
Buccleuch and Greyfriars Church) is at the rear of the former building which
can only be reached via Quarry Close.
Disabled drivers and vehicles carrying people with disabilities
therefore have to use the latter street and the disabled parking at the end of
it. Members of the public, and the SCC members, stated their views, which were
deeply divided. Although there was agreement with the aim of reducing and
calming traffic, and with the idea of making an improvement in the environment,
the safety of the arrangements proposed for W. Crosscauseway was questioned by
several. This is a major factor affecting responses to both the RSO ("The
City of Edinburgh Council (Buccleuch Street, Chapel Street, East Crosscauseway,
Nicolson Street and, West Crosscauseway, Edinburgh) (Redetermination of Means
of Exercise of Public Right of Passage) Order 201-") and the TRO (“The
City of Edinburgh Council (West Crosscauseway, Edinburgh) (Prohibition and
Restriction of Motor Vehicles) Traffic Regulation Order 201-“). Specifically,
some speakers were concerned about the dangers to pedestrians and cyclists
under the plan for two-way vehicle traffic in a narrow street with no pavement
areas separated off or even indicated by different surfaces, especially since
vehicles will be performing U- turns at the Quarry Close end of the eastern
part of WCC across paths taken by pedestrians and cyclists. DW and RH stated
that the plans had been developed in collaboration with a range of stakeholders
including CEC, and that an independent safety audit had been carried out on the
plans to be implemented through the TRO/RSO and this had suggested that they
were safe for pedestrians and cyclists. Overall, opinions ranged from support
for the plans proposed by the CDT, to support subject to agreement on certain
details, to opposition to the road plans.”
was elected unopposed as new Chair person with immediate effect.
Summary Reports from Chair, Secretary and Treasurer
It was decided to ask Ruth Davidson to respond to the
questions that had been prepared by JC and PMcD, and it was agreed to try
inviting her for another date.
It was agreed to support the residents of Lutton Place in
their complaints against the contractors working on the site of the student
housing in Bernard Terrace, who have cut back large portions of trees in back
DC gave a brief update about stair lighting. Cllr. Orr
repeated that this is a cost-cutting measure by the council, and it remains
unclear why arrangements cannot be made for tenement owners to pay for the
Summary Reports from Committees/meetings attended
PMcD reported his attendance at the Licensing Board
meeting to reconsider the changes to the rules about noise from businesses
playing amplified music. It was agreed that the SCC should try to get
notification of licensing applications, like the notifications of planning
applications, and to get the system changed so that written objections are
taken account of properly, rather than objectors being required to attend
hearings in person. It was noted that objecting to new applications, and
variations in existing licences, need to be examined by residents and agreement
needs to be reached with Licensing offices about what constitutes a nuisance
(the criterion for action under the new arrangements).
11. JC outlined a proposed
Clean-up Event, which she hopes to organize on the morning of 29 October
12. Any Other Business
A member of the public who
works in the Oxfam shop told us that drug users were outside the shop, and the
police were called. It was agreed that drug problems should be discussed at a
PMcD was given permission
to contribute £100 to the SA Chritmas event.
Gordon Duffy asked whether
Studio Dub’s comments can be taken note of when preparing the SCC response to
the CDT proposal (item 5 above), as the CDT have responded to his criticisms.
JC ruled that no further submissions can be taken into account.
As agreed in response to RH’s request at the May meeting, RH wrote
to Leicester City Football Club to congratulate them on winning the Premier
League in England and Wales in 2015-2016 and the way they had brought the
various communities of this very diverse city together as supporters to help
achieve this. His letter said that Edinburgh’s Southside was also a diverse
community and therefore took particular inspiration from LCFC. A warm letter of thanks from Claudio Ranieri,
the manager, was received with a signed photograph.
13. Date of Next Meeting:
14th November, also at the CCE